ffeofes

[Colm Hasson]

Can someone tell me what - ffeofes - and - alien enfeoff -mean in this
1654 text?


sonnes and heyrs to ........... Esqrs. ffeofes in trust for the use of
....... doe saie that .......... by an indented deed dated the first day of
November 1639, in consideracon of two hundread pounds sterlin to him in hand
payde, by the Claymnts ffathers, did give, grantt, bargaine and sell alien
enfeoff and confirme unto them theire heyrs and assignes foreever.

Colm

[Mike Day]

Post by Colm Hasson
Can someone tell me what - ffeofes - and - alien enfeoff -mean in this
1654 text?
sonnes and heyrs to ........... Esqrs. ffeofes in trust for the use of
....... doe saie that .......... by an indented deed dated the first day of
November 1639, in consideracon of two hundread pounds sterlin to him in hand
payde, by the Claymnts ffathers, did give, grantt, bargaine and sell alien
enfeoff and confirme unto them theire heyrs and assignes foreever.
Colm

A feoff or fief is land held in return for feudal service or on condition of
military service.

The verb to feoff means to grant possession of a fief or property in land.

The feoffee is the person invested with the fief, the feoffer or feoffor is
the person who grants the fief, and a feoffment is the gift of a fief.

(All from Chambers Dictionary)

Mike

[Don Aitken]

Post by Mike Day

Post by Colm Hasson
Can someone tell me what - ffeofes - and - alien enfeoff -mean in this
1654 text?
sonnes and heyrs to ........... Esqrs. ffeofes in trust for the use of
....... doe saie that .......... by an indented deed dated the first day

of

Post by Colm Hasson
November 1639, in consideracon of two hundread pounds sterlin to him in

hand

Post by Colm Hasson
payde, by the Claymnts ffathers, did give, grantt, bargaine and sell alien
enfeoff and confirme unto them theire heyrs and assignes foreever.
Colm

A feoff or fief is land held in return for feudal service or on condition of
military service.
The verb to feoff means to grant possession of a fief or property in land.
The feoffee is the person invested with the fief, the feoffer or feoffor is
the person who grants the fief, and a feoffment is the gift of a fief.
(All from Chambers Dictionary)

And a foeffee in trust is what we would now call a trustee. "Alien",
in this sense, is just another synonym of "grant, bargain and sell".
So this is a conveyance of the freehold to trustees for the party
whose name is given after "to the use of".

[cecilia]

Post by Colm Hasson
Can someone tell me what - ffeofes - and - alien enfeoff -mean in this
1654 text?

(Meaning dealt with by others.)

For avoidance of doubt:
in words starting ff-, read F- for ff-.

[Eve McLaughlin]

Post by Colm Hasson
Can someone tell me what - ffeofes - and - alien enfeoff -mean in this
1654 text?

people who are holding in fee (directly and freehold in exchnge
originally for military service, later for other services) a property
for the benefit of another (which could be a chariutable trust for the
public good etc)

Post by Colm Hasson
sonnes and heyrs to ........... Esqrs. ffeofes in trust for the use of
....... doe saie that .......... by an indented deed dated the first day of
November 1639, in consideracon of two hundread pounds sterlin to him in hand
payde, by the Claymnts ffathers, did give, grantt, bargaine and sell alien
enfeoff

this is a collection of word which basically mean the same thing
bargaine - come to an agreement about the sale of a property
alien - to sell a property to someone else
enfeoff - to put someone in possession of property

no lawyer ever wrote one word when two, three, four .......etc would do,
since the larger the document the larger the fee for writing it

[Tony Comer]

Eve McLaughlin <***@varneys.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:QZSyA5AURDq$***@varneys.demon.co.uk...

(large snip)

Post by Eve McLaughlin
no lawyer ever wrote one word when two, three, four .......etc would do,
since the larger the document the larger the fee for writing it

I've mentioned this before, in the context of will writing, but is there any
chance of some evidence for this?

Tony
--
Paciencia y barajar

[Colm Hasson]

Thanks to all who contributed.
Colm

Post by Colm Hasson
Can someone tell me what - ffeofes - and - alien enfeoff -mean in this
1654 text?
sonnes and heyrs to ........... Esqrs. ffeofes in trust for the use of
....... doe saie that .......... by an indented deed dated the first day of
November 1639, in consideracon of two hundread pounds sterlin to him in

hand payde, by the Claymnts ffathers, did give, grantt, bargaine and sell
alien

Post by Colm Hasson
enfeoff and confirme unto them theire heyrs and assignes foreever.
Colm