Little streets in London

[David J]

I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District is Finsbury.

This might be what is now just called Denmark Street, off Charing
Cross Road.

As far as I can see (it's on a page edge) Greenwoods 1827 London map
shows only a Denmark Street.

However information from oldbaileyonline.org show nearly 100 London
Streets with the prefix 'Little' ranging from Little Allhallows to
Little Windmill Street.

My question is: are these 'Little' streets likely to be the current
streets of the similar name? Or were they small alleys which now no
longer exist?

[JohnB]

Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District is Finsbury.
This might be what is now just called Denmark Street, off Charing
Cross Road.
As far as I can see (it's on a page edge) Greenwoods 1827 London map
shows only a Denmark Street.
However information from oldbaileyonline.org show nearly 100 London
Streets with the prefix 'Little' ranging from Little Allhallows to
Little Windmill Street.
My question is: are these 'Little' streets likely to be the current
streets of the similar name? Or were they small alleys which now no
longer exist?

In central Liverpool there are a number of streets prefixed by "Back"
and these were access roads along the back of properties but which may
well have provided the main point of entrance to certain residences or
offices within those buildings. I suspect that "Little" has the same
meaning in some parts.

[John Drewell]

hello David,

Pigots 1832 List of London Streets, etc; has:
..................
Little Denmark Street, near St Giles Church
............................
The 1813 Regencey A-Z shows the street running south-west from
St Giles Church; at the junction of Broad Street & High Street.
........
Denmark Street is still here; runs from St Giles Church west to Charing
Cross Road
......
Cheers John Drewell in Vancouver BC
(searching all DREWELL mentions)
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Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District is Finsbury.
This might be what is now just called Denmark Street, off Charing
Cross Road.
As far as I can see (it's on a page edge) Greenwoods 1827 London map
shows only a Denmark Street.
However information from oldbaileyonline.org show nearly 100 London
Streets with the prefix 'Little' ranging from Little Allhallows to
Little Windmill Street.
My question is: are these 'Little' streets likely to be the current
streets of the similar name? Or were they small alleys which now no
longer exist?

In central Liverpool there are a number of streets prefixed by "Back"
and these were access roads along the back of properties but which may
well have provided the main point of entrance to certain residences or
offices within those buildings. I suspect that "Little" has the same
meaning in some parts.
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[Don Aitken]

Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District is Finsbury.
This might be what is now just called Denmark Street, off Charing
Cross Road.
As far as I can see (it's on a page edge) Greenwoods 1827 London map
shows only a Denmark Street.
However information from oldbaileyonline.org show nearly 100 London
Streets with the prefix 'Little' ranging from Little Allhallows to
Little Windmill Street.
My question is: are these 'Little' streets likely to be the current
streets of the similar name? Or were they small alleys which now no
longer exist?

Little Denmark Street is recorded as still in existence in 1929,
having, in 1907, incorporated the former Lloyd's Court. In the
"locality" of Denmark Street, so close to it, but not the same. It may
have gone when one of the theatres was built.

[James D. Thomas]

I can't trace the OP, but I think it worth pointing out that St.Giles in the
Field is in Holborn not Finsbury.

James
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Post by Don Aitken

Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District is Finsbury.
This might be what is now just called Denmark Street, off Charing
Cross Road.
As far as I can see (it's on a page edge) Greenwoods 1827 London map
shows only a Denmark Street.
However information from oldbaileyonline.org show nearly 100 London
Streets with the prefix 'Little' ranging from Little Allhallows to
Little Windmill Street.
My question is: are these 'Little' streets likely to be the current
streets of the similar name? Or were they small alleys which now no
longer exist?

Little Denmark Street is recorded as still in existence in 1929,
having, in 1907, incorporated the former Lloyd's Court. In the
"locality" of Denmark Street, so close to it, but not the same. It may
have gone when one of the theatres was built.
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Post by James D. Thomas

Post by Don Aitken

Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District is Finsbury.

Little Denmark Street is recorded as still in existence in 1929,
having, in 1907, incorporated the former Lloyd's Court. In the
"locality" of Denmark Street, so close to it, but not the same. It may
have gone when one of the theatres was built.

I can't trace the OP, but I think it worth pointing out that St.Giles in the
Field is in Holborn not Finsbury.

I presume that what he means is Finsbury Registration District; the
boundaries of RDs did not necessarily correspond with those of the
boroughs of the same name; in that area they are totally different.

[David J]

Post by Don Aitken
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Post by James D. Thomas

Post by Don Aitken

Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District is Finsbury.

Little Denmark Street is recorded as still in existence in 1929,
having, in 1907, incorporated the former Lloyd's Court. In the
"locality" of Denmark Street, so close to it, but not the same. It may
have gone when one of the theatres was built.

I can't trace the OP, but I think it worth pointing out that St.Giles in the
Field is in Holborn not Finsbury.

I presume that what he means is Finsbury Registration District; the
boundaries of RDs did not necessarily correspond with those of the
boroughs of the same name; in that area they are totally different.

Yes, of course. My information about Finsbury was taken from the
completed 1851 Census page.

David

[Caroline Bradford]

Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District is Finsbury.
This might be what is now just called Denmark Street, off Charing
Cross Road.
My question is: are these 'Little' streets likely to be the current
streets of the similar name? Or were they small alleys which now no
longer exist?

According to
http://www.btinternet.com/~rayment/general/road_name_changes/14_2L_Inner_Lon
don_Streets_Old_Names.html Little Denmark Street is now Flitcroft Street,
which runs parallel to Denmark Street to the south. The Phoenix Theatre is
on the corner.

Caroline

[Chris Watts]

Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District is Finsbury.
This might be what is now just called Denmark Street, off Charing
Cross Road.
As far as I can see (it's on a page edge) Greenwoods 1827 London map
shows only a Denmark Street.
However information from oldbaileyonline.org show nearly 100 London
Streets with the prefix 'Little' ranging from Little Allhallows to
Little Windmill Street.
My question is: are these 'Little' streets likely to be the current
streets of the similar name? Or were they small alleys which now no
longer exist?

If in doubt talk to the folk at the London Metropolitan Archives - they have
London maps as detailed as 6 foot (not inches!) to the mile. These even
note lamposts!

Chris

[Jeff]

Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little
Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current
building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District
is Finsbury.
This might be what is now just called Denmark Street, off
Charing
Cross Road.
As far as I can see (it's on a page edge) Greenwoods 1827
London map
shows only a Denmark Street.
However information from oldbaileyonline.org show nearly
100 London
Streets with the prefix 'Little' ranging from Little
Allhallows to
Little Windmill Street.
My question is: are these 'Little' streets likely to be
the current
streets of the similar name? Or were they small alleys
which now no
longer exist?

Description and 'probable'location (which supports your
guess) at:
http://booth.lse.ac.uk/cgi-bin/do.pl?sub=retrieve_catalogue_notebook&args=b354,140,160

[John Allen]

David J wrote in message

Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street

David,

I can confirm that Little Denmark Street in St Giles, was renamed Flitcroft
Street ( after the church architect Henry Flitcroft) in 1936.


I had many relatives in the Saint Giles in the Fields parish, and have
recently got hold of a copy of an excellent publication by the Camden
History Society "Streets of St Giles" from which the above comes.


John in West Cork

[CWatters]

Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District is Finsbury.

Little Denmark Street = Flitcroft Street

according to...
http://www.btinternet.com/~rayment/general/road_name_changes/14_2L_Inner_London_Streets_Old_Names.html

Google can find several other references though...

http://www.screenonline.org.uk/audio/id/954848/index.html
"an office he'd taken in Little Denmark Street, off Charing Cross Road"

http://londonpublichouse.com/LondonPubs/LondonPublicHouse1851/London1851A.htm
"Aistrop Chas Jas, Eight Bells PH, 5 Little Denmark Street, Soho"

http://www.feedthepigeons.com/_text/comment_ladies_is2.html
"Once upon a time, dear Hearts, little Denmark Street in London's West End
was a cavalcade of colour and character, and did give the gift of British
pop to the world..."

http://sound-on-sound2.infopop.net/2/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=215094572&f=7313001337&m=835106692
"You could try Graham at Andy's, Little Denmark Street: 020 7916 5956"
http://home.btclick.com/aguitar/index.htm
Web site give address as "27, Denmark Street, London WC2H 8NJ. United
Kingdom"

[David J]

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:17:40 GMT, "CWatters"

Post by CWatters

Post by David J
I'm trying to locate a London Street written as Little Denmark Street
in the 1851 census so that I can photograph the current building
there. The parish is Saint Giles in the Fields, District is Finsbury.

Little Denmark Street = Flitcroft Street
according to...
http://www.btinternet.com/~rayment/general/road_name_changes/14_2L_Inner_London_Streets_Old_Names.html
Google can find several other references though...
http://www.screenonline.org.uk/audio/id/954848/index.html
"an office he'd taken in Little Denmark Street, off Charing Cross Road"
http://londonpublichouse.com/LondonPubs/LondonPublicHouse1851/London1851A.htm
"Aistrop Chas Jas, Eight Bells PH, 5 Little Denmark Street, Soho"
http://www.feedthepigeons.com/_text/comment_ladies_is2.html
"Once upon a time, dear Hearts, little Denmark Street in London's West End
was a cavalcade of colour and character, and did give the gift of British
pop to the world..."
http://sound-on-sound2.infopop.net/2/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=215094572&f=7313001337&m=835106692
"You could try Graham at Andy's, Little Denmark Street: 020 7916 5956"
http://home.btclick.com/aguitar/index.htm
Web site give address as "27, Denmark Street, London WC2H 8NJ. United
Kingdom"

Hi folks - so Flitcroft Street it is.

And thanks to all who replied, I now have some new good references to
this area of London.

A most interesting read during my researches yesterday was the
transcribed 1799 Old Bailey trial proceedings of a murder committed in
The Kings Arms in Maynard Street, where there were several references
to nearby Denmark Street.

This report truly brought to life the courtroom drama between the
defence (illegal warrants) and procecution (pre-determined murder).
The summing up by the judge Mr Justice Groce would stand up today.

Ref: http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/

The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Ref: t17990508-21

[Geoff]

Post by David J
This might be what is now just called Denmark Street, off Charing
Cross Road.

aka Tin Pan Alley

Geoff