how to refer to half-cousins?

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

We share a however-many-greats grandfather that makes us fourth cousins,
but not the corresponding mother (he's descended from George Surtees'
first wife, I'm descended from George's second [of three!]).

What are we:
half fourth cousins?
fourth half-cousins?
Something else?

And how would one describe the relationship between two people where the
halfness (?) is part way up the arms - or, as I _think_ is the case,
does that not arise (as it wouldn't be relevant)?

[Jenny M Benson]

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
We share a however-many-greats grandfather that makes us fourth cousins,
but not the corresponding mother (he's descended from George Surtees'
first wife, I'm descended from George's second [of three!]).
half fourth cousins?
fourth half-cousins?
Something else?

I have quite a few half-cousins in one branch of my tree (1) and Legacy
describes them as, for example, "½ 4th Cousin" or "½ 1st Cousin 3x
removed" or whatever.

(1) Due to a 3rd Great Grandmother marrying 3 times, including 2 brothers.

[knuttle]

ns in one branch of my tree (1) and Legacy describes them as, for
example, "½ 4th Cousin" or "½ 1st Cousin 3x removed" or whatever.

The same for Family Tree Maker. When there is but on common parent, the
relationship is described as being "Half"
IE Half brother, half 1st cousin, half 1st cousin once removed, etc.

While this is from Family Tree maker, this is the general explanation I
found in several places when I google the term.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by knuttle

ns in one branch of my tree (1) and Legacy describes them as, for
example, "½ 4th Cousin" or "½ 1st Cousin 3x removed" or whatever.

The same for Family Tree Maker. When there is but on common parent,
the relationship is described as being "Half"
IE Half brother, half 1st cousin, half 1st cousin once removed, etc.
While this is from Family Tree maker, this is the general explanation I
found in several places when I google the term.

Thanks both. So it seems the consensus is to put the "half" first.

[Ian Goddard]

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
We share a however-many-greats grandfather that makes us fourth
cousins, but not the corresponding mother (he's descended from George
Surtees' first wife, I'm descended from George's second [of three!]).
half fourth cousins?
fourth half-cousins?
Something else?

I have quite a few half-cousins in one branch of my tree (1) and Legacy
describes them as, for example, "½ 4th Cousin" or "½ 1st Cousin 3x
removed" or whatever.

AFAIK "removed" means different generations so my first cousin's
daughters are first cousins once removed and their children are first
cousins twice removed.

Post by Jenny M Benson
(1) Due to a 3rd Great Grandmother marrying 3 times, including 2 brothers.

That's one complication I don't have, at least not to my knowledge.
However I do have the complication of a great grandmother having 4 lines
of descent from the same couple. It's rather complicated working out
the degrees of cousinage in those marriages as they have multiple
connections between them. And I've just realised that one of those
ancestors married twice and I only have a first name for one of them and
no candidates identified so they could have been sisters...

Ian

[MB]

Post by Jenny M Benson
I have quite a few half-cousins in one branch of my tree (1) and Legacy
describes them as, for example, "½ 4th Cousin" or "½ 1st Cousin 3x
removed" or whatever.

I occasionally look up the exact name for the relationship on Legacy but
just refer to them all as "cousins".

[cecilia]

On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 12:15:54 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
We share a however-many-greats grandfather that makes us fourth cousins,
but not the corresponding mother (he's descended from George Surtees'
first wife, I'm descended from George's second [of three!]).
half fourth cousins?
fourth half-cousins?
Something else?
And how would one describe the relationship between two people where the
halfness (?) is part way up the arms - or, as I _think_ is the case,
does that not arise (as it wouldn't be relevant)?

If some sort of cousin of person A has children from different
partners, they are half-siblings to each other, but it makes no
difference to the cousinship of each to A.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by cecilia
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 12:15:54 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
We share a however-many-greats grandfather that makes us fourth cousins,
but not the corresponding mother (he's descended from George Surtees'
first wife, I'm descended from George's second [of three!]).
half fourth cousins?
fourth half-cousins?
Something else?
And how would one describe the relationship between two people where the
halfness (?) is part way up the arms - or, as I _think_ is the case,
does that not arise (as it wouldn't be relevant)?

If some sort of cousin of person A has children from different
partners, they are half-siblings to each other, but it makes no
difference to the cousinship of each to A.

Well explained, thanks.