Discussion:
What does (s.d) stand for on marriage certificate
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Ron O'Brien
2008-01-17 18:03:29 UTC
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My wife just received a copy of a 1922 overseas marriage certificate
(marriage took place at Army base in Deolali, India).
Against (before) each signature - the couple, the witnesses and the Chaplin
it has (s.d.) then the name - can anyone tell me what (s.d.) stands for?

We thought perhaps signed declaration, but that would seem an odd thing to
have before the Chaplin's signature
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Ron O'Brien
Richard van Schaik
2008-01-17 18:14:37 UTC
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Post by Ron O'Brien
My wife just received a copy of a 1922 overseas marriage certificate
(marriage took place at Army base in Deolali, India).
Against (before) each signature - the couple, the witnesses and the
Chaplin it has (s.d.) then the name - can anyone tell me what (s.d.)
stands for?
We thought perhaps signed declaration, but that would seem an odd thing
to have before the Chaplin's signature
Are those signatures original (different handwriting) or transcriptions
(same handwriting)? In dutch on transcripts of the original made by some
clerck it became habit to precede the signature with w.g. (was getekend
= was signed by).

Richard
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Ron O'Brien
2008-01-17 18:55:20 UTC
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Post by Richard van Schaik
Are those signatures original (different handwriting) or transcriptions
(same handwriting)? In dutch on transcripts of the original made by some
clerck it became habit to precede the signature with w.g. (was getekend =
was signed by).
No it's a copy (transcript) of the original document, so yes could well be
just a confirmation that on the original it was signed
Richard van Schaik
2008-01-17 22:54:10 UTC
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Post by Ron O'Brien
Post by Richard van Schaik
Are those signatures original (different handwriting) or
transcriptions (same handwriting)? In dutch on transcripts of the
original made by some clerck it became habit to precede the signature
with w.g. (was getekend = was signed by).
No it's a copy (transcript) of the original document, so yes could well
be just a confirmation that on the original it was signed
Then I would guess on signature description (or the like, even just
signed is possible).

Richard
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Richard van Schaik
2008-01-17 23:06:41 UTC
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Post by Richard van Schaik
Post by Ron O'Brien
Post by Richard van Schaik
Are those signatures original (different handwriting) or
transcriptions (same handwriting)? In dutch on transcripts of the
original made by some clerck it became habit to precede the signature
with w.g. (was getekend = was signed by).
No it's a copy (transcript) of the original document, so yes could
well be just a confirmation that on the original it was signed
Then I would guess on signature description (or the like, even just
signed is possible).
Signature description googles even to this type of documents:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~franandben/bcerts.htm (first
link found, didn't look further).

Oops, just on the pile next to me ....... birth certs at least use this
term.

Richard
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Charles Ellson
2008-01-17 18:44:38 UTC
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:03:29 GMT, "Ron O'Brien"
Post by Ron O'Brien
My wife just received a copy of a 1922 overseas marriage certificate
(marriage took place at Army base in Deolali, India).
Against (before) each signature - the couple, the witnesses and the Chaplin
it has (s.d.) then the name - can anyone tell me what (s.d.) stands for?
We thought perhaps signed declaration, but that would seem an odd thing to
have before the Chaplin's signature
Possibly just an abbreviation of "signed" which is the expected word
in those positions ? If it is a transcribed/typed copy then the
original might not actually be what has been reproduced.
Don Aitken
2008-01-17 21:52:41 UTC
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:03:29 GMT, "Ron O'Brien"
Post by Ron O'Brien
My wife just received a copy of a 1922 overseas marriage certificate
(marriage took place at Army base in Deolali, India).
Against (before) each signature - the couple, the witnesses and the Chaplin
it has (s.d.) then the name - can anyone tell me what (s.d.) stands for?
We thought perhaps signed declaration, but that would seem an odd thing to
have before the Chaplin's signature
Probably just "signed".
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Brad Rogers
2008-01-17 23:28:26 UTC
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Post by Ron O'Brien
My wife just received a copy of a 1922 overseas marriage certificate
(marriage took place at Army base in Deolali, India).
Against (before) each signature - the couple, the witnesses and the Chaplin
it has (s.d.) then the name - can anyone tell me what (s.d.) stands for?
Usually, s.d. is an abbreviation for "sine die". Which doesn't (to me, at
least) make much sense in this context.
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Chris Watts
2008-01-18 07:22:56 UTC
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In this context - i.e. a transcript - it normally means "signed"

Chris
Post by Ron O'Brien
My wife just received a copy of a 1922 overseas marriage certificate
(marriage took place at Army base in Deolali, India).
Against (before) each signature - the couple, the witnesses and the
Chaplin it has (s.d.) then the name - can anyone tell me what (s.d.)
stands for?
We thought perhaps signed declaration, but that would seem an odd thing to
have before the Chaplin's signature
--
Ron O'Brien
Ron O'Brien
2008-01-18 15:41:00 UTC
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Thanks everyone

Can't help thinking why the GRO bothered??? - obviously just trying to
confuse me!
:-)

Ron
Charles Ellson
2008-01-18 21:16:01 UTC
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:41:00 GMT, "Ron O'Brien"
Post by Ron O'Brien
Thanks everyone
Can't help thinking why the GRO bothered??? - obviously just trying to
confuse me!
:-)
Entries were not always signed, some will be

<firstname> X <surname> His/Her Mark

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