Hello from an old timer

[Vivienne Dunstan]

Checking in to say hi from an old time user of Usenet and this group
particularly. I was active on it in the early and mid 1990s especially,
posting particularly about Scottish genealogy topics. I posted under my
maiden name Moore and married name Dunstan.

Sadly I fell ill with a progressive neurological illness in 1994, aged just
22. Luckily I’d already traced my family tree extensively, starting at just
8! So vital as my access to records in archives declined. But then online
access opened up more records over time, so I can still do research from
home. And I am still here, all these years on!

Despite my progressive illness I managed to retrain part-time as an
academic historian, picking up 3 more degrees, including a PhD. My academic
historical research is Scottish focused, 16th, 17th and 18th centuries,
ranging across social, cultural, urban and reading histories. All described
at my website at https://vivdunstan.co.uk/

I also have an active general musings blog, recent posts of which have
reviewed a new Scottish genealogy book and reviewed the newly freely online
Scottish kirk session records. https://vivsacademicblog.wordpress.com/

Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long,
long ago.

Best wishes.

Viv

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

Post by Vivienne Dunstan
Checking in to say hi from an old time user of Usenet and this group
particularly. I was active on it in the early and mid 1990s especially,
posting particularly about Scottish genealogy topics. I posted under my
maiden name Moore and married name Dunstan.
Sadly I fell ill with a progressive neurological illness in 1994, aged just
22. Luckily I’d already traced my family tree extensively, starting at just
8! So vital as my access to records in archives declined. But then online
access opened up more records over time, so I can still do research from
home. And I am still here, all these years on!
Despite my progressive illness I managed to retrain part-time as an
academic historian, picking up 3 more degrees, including a PhD. My academic
historical research is Scottish focused, 16th, 17th and 18th centuries,
ranging across social, cultural, urban and reading histories. All described
at my website at https://vivdunstan.co.uk/
I also have an active general musings blog, recent posts of which have
reviewed a new Scottish genealogy book and reviewed the newly freely online
Scottish kirk session records. https://vivsacademicblog.wordpress.com/
Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long,
long ago.

Hi. I wasn't here in the 1990s so I didn't come across you then, but
anyway, congratulations on making a success of your academic life
despite your health problems.

[Steve Hayes]

On Wed, 02 Jun 2021 10:26:04 GMT, Vivienne Dunstan

Post by Vivienne Dunstan
Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long,
long ago.

Welcome back!

[Gordon]

Post by Vivienne Dunstan
Checking in to say hi from an old time user of Usenet and this group
particularly. I was active on it in the early and mid 1990s especially,
posting particularly about Scottish genealogy topics. I posted under my
maiden name Moore and married name Dunstan.
Sadly I fell ill with a progressive neurological illness in 1994, aged just
22. Luckily I’d already traced my family tree extensively, starting at just
8! So vital as my access to records in archives declined. But then online
access opened up more records over time, so I can still do research from
home. And I am still here, all these years on!
Despite my progressive illness I managed to retrain part-time as an
academic historian, picking up 3 more degrees, including a PhD. My academic
historical research is Scottish focused, 16th, 17th and 18th centuries,
ranging across social, cultural, urban and reading histories. All described
at my website at https://vivdunstan.co.uk/
I also have an active general musings blog, recent posts of which have
reviewed a new Scottish genealogy book and reviewed the newly freely online
Scottish kirk session records. https://vivsacademicblog.wordpress.com/
Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long,
long ago.
Best wishes.
Viv

I'm afraid there are not many of us "old ones" from then left on here but
there are many new ones who are helpful. Sadly some of the "old timers" have
past on.

Welcome back.

Good hunting

Gordon

[Ruth Wilson]

Some of us are still alive and kicking (and not *that* old! I haven't
even got my bus pass - yet).
It would be nice to have a more lively group. I must say when I have
posted on here I do get helpful answers, and there isn't the eye-rolling
ignorance you get on a lot of FB groups!

So here's a hard question for you oldies! England, Select deaths and
burials gives me a couple of family buried in Upperby, Cumberland in the
1870s. There is a municipal cemetery there but that only opened in 1881.
Does that mean that my burials are likely to be from the parish church,
which looks as if it is on the same site as the cemetery.

I can't see how to dig into Family Search to see what the coverage is here.

Ruth

Post by Gordon
I'm afraid there are not many of us "old ones" from then left on here
but there are many new ones who are helpful. Sadly some of the "old
timers" have past on.
Welcome back.
Good hunting
Gordon

[Jenny M Benson]

Post by Ruth Wilson
So here's a hard question for you oldies! England, Select deaths and
burials gives me a couple of family buried in Upperby, Cumberland in the
1870s. There is a municipal cemetery there but that only opened in 1881.
Does that mean that my burials are likely to be from the parish church,
which looks as if it is on the same site as the cemetery.
I can't see how to dig into Family Search to see what the coverage is here.

If you look at the FS Catalogue, you will find 3 films for Upperby,
including film #7561537 Parish Registers for Upperby, 1846-1930, on
which items 15=22 include Burials 1846-1930. Then search Records,
specifying that film number, name, date of death and place of death
Upperby, Cumberland. You will then see the records you have already
seen (at Ancestry?) but with the added knowledge that these are
transcriptions of Parish Registers.

(Pity that the LDS don't include the film number and/or title in the
Citation they suggest.)

[Ruth Wilson]

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Ruth Wilson
So here's a hard question for you oldies! England, Select deaths and
burials gives me a couple of family buried in Upperby, Cumberland in
the 1870s. There is a municipal cemetery there but that only opened in
1881. Does that mean that my burials are likely to be from the parish
church, which looks as if it is on the same site as the cemetery.
I can't see how to dig into Family Search to see what the coverage is here.

If you look at the FS Catalogue, you will find 3 films for Upperby,
including film #7561537 Parish Registers for Upperby, 1846-1930, on
which items 15=22 include Burials 1846-1930.  Then search Records,
specifying that film number, name, date of death and place of death
Upperby, Cumberland.  You will then see the records you have already
seen (at Ancestry?) but with the added knowledge that these are
transcriptions of Parish Registers.
(Pity that the LDS don't include the film number and/or title in the
Citation they suggest.)

Thank-you. I can usually find out parishes, but just couldn't see a way
to do it here. (I think I did originally see them at Ancestry, but
always then check FS, just in case it leads back to a better source)

See, this is much more helpful than the FB group which told me that
a) there was a cemetery in Upperby (which I had already posted in the
query) and
b)someone asking about the phone number and email for said cemetery ...

Ruth

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 11:06:53, Ruth Wilson <***@virgin.net>
wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
[]

Post by Ruth Wilson
So here's a hard question for you oldies! England, Select deaths and
burials gives me a couple of family buried in Upperby, Cumberland in
the 1870s. There is a municipal cemetery there but that only opened in
1881. Does that mean that my burials are likely to be from the parish
church, which looks as if it is on the same site as the cemetery.
I can't see how to dig

Until I read on, I had visions of you visiting Cumb* with a spade on
your shoulder, intending to find out beyond a doubt! [Probably carrying
a flickering lantern ...]

Post by Ruth Wilson
into Family Search to see what the coverage is here.

[]
[I hope JMB's answer helps.]

[MB]

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Until I read on, I had visions of you visiting Cumb* with a spade on
your shoulder, intending to find out beyond a doubt! [Probably carrying
a flickering lantern ...]

Some years ago there was a BBC series about parish priests, ministers
etc. I think it was the one at Daliburgh who had to find a space for
burial so he mapped out the burial ground by poking a long stiff wire
into the ground to locate coffins.

[Ruth Wilson]

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]

Post by Ruth Wilson
So here's a hard question for you oldies! England, Select deaths and
burials gives me a couple of family buried in Upperby, Cumberland in
the 1870s. There is a municipal cemetery there but that only opened in
1881. Does that mean that my burials are likely to be from the parish
church, which looks as if it is on the same site as the cemetery.
I can't see how to dig

Until I read on, I had visions of you visiting Cumb* with a spade on
your shoulder, intending to find out beyond a doubt! [Probably carrying
a flickering lantern ...]

Post by Ruth Wilson
into Family Search to see what the coverage is here.

[]
[I hope JMB's answer helps.]

What a great idea to help with the DNA ... I'm off to Anfield Cem!
(thanks for the laugh!0

Ruth

[cecilia]

On Wed, 02 Jun 2021 10:26:04 GMT, Vivienne Dunstan

Post by Vivienne Dunstan
Checking in to say hi from an old time user of Usenet and this group
particularly. I was active on it in the early and mid 1990s especially,
posting particularly about Scottish genealogy topics. I posted under my
maiden name Moore and married name Dunstan.

[...]

Post by Vivienne Dunstan
Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long,
long ago.
Best wishes.
Viv

Before my start time, but welcome back.

[Tony Proctor]

Post by Vivienne Dunstan
Checking in to say hi from an old time user of Usenet and this group
particularly. I was active on it in the early and mid 1990s especially,
posting particularly about Scottish genealogy topics. I posted under my
maiden name Moore and married name Dunstan.
Sadly I fell ill with a progressive neurological illness in 1994, aged just
22. Luckily I’d already traced my family tree extensively, starting at just
8! So vital as my access to records in archives declined. But then online
access opened up more records over time, so I can still do research from
home. And I am still here, all these years on!
Despite my progressive illness I managed to retrain part-time as an
academic historian, picking up 3 more degrees, including a PhD. My academic
historical research is Scottish focused, 16th, 17th and 18th centuries,
ranging across social, cultural, urban and reading histories. All described
at my website at https://vivdunstan.co.uk/
I also have an active general musings blog, recent posts of which have
reviewed a new Scottish genealogy book and reviewed the newly freely online
Scottish kirk session records. https://vivsacademicblog.wordpress.com/
Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long,
long ago.
Best wishes.
Viv

If the people from back then are still researching then they may have been distracted by the likes of Google Groups, Facebook Groups, and sundry
forums. These groups here are not nearly as active as I remember them, let alone back in the 90s.

As you're an expert in Scottish research, Viv, (smiling) would you be aware of anything resembling a one-name study for Campbell. I have a
long-standing brick wall with a Scottish James Campbell living in Lancashire. Although married twice and having two children, I have found absolutely
nothing outside of census pages, other than a couple of death certs. There must be relevant records missing but the clues are sparse.

Tony