Occasional Copy A

[Jenny M Benson]

Annie Salisbury registered the birth of her son Harold in December Q
1880 and the entry appears in a search of the GRO Index. Searching for
the same entry on FreeBMD produces it
and one for Harold Varty Salisbury, same quarter.

Looking at the image of the index at Free BMD, there is the typed entry
for Harold Salisbury in the alphabetical list and an indication that a
handwritten amendment from the foot of the page should be inserted. The
handwritten text reads "Harold Varty Birkenhead 488A."

Knowing that Annie married Joseph Varty in September Q 1881, I am
assuming that Harold's birth entry was amended to show his surname as
Varty, not that his full name was amended to Harold Varty Salisbury as
the FreeBMD entry implies. Am I right?

Somewhat surprised, though, that a search of the GRO site doesn't seem
to throw up the Occasional Copy entry.

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Jenny M Benson
Annie Salisbury registered the birth of her son Harold in December Q
1880 and the entry appears in a search of the GRO Index.  Searching for
the same entry on FreeBMD produces it
 and one for Harold Varty Salisbury, same quarter.
Looking at the image of the index at Free BMD, there is the typed entry
for Harold Salisbury in the alphabetical list and an indication that a
handwritten amendment from the foot of the page should be inserted.  The
handwritten text reads "Harold Varty Birkenhead 488A."
Knowing that Annie married Joseph Varty in September Q 1881, I am
assuming that Harold's birth entry was amended to show his surname as
Varty, not that his full name was amended to Harold Varty Salisbury as
the FreeBMD entry implies.  Am I right?

I would go with that, the transcription is wrong.

[john]

Post by Jenny M Benson
Annie Salisbury registered the birth of her son Harold in December Q
1880 and the entry appears in a search of the GRO Index. Searching
for the same entry on FreeBMD produces it and one for Harold Varty
Salisbury, same quarter.
Looking at the image of the index at Free BMD, there is the typed
entry for Harold Salisbury in the alphabetical list and an
indication that a handwritten amendment from the foot of the page
should be inserted. The handwritten text reads "Harold Varty
Birkenhead 488A."
Knowing that Annie married Joseph Varty in September Q 1881, I am
assuming that Harold's birth entry was amended to show his surname
as Varty, not that his full name was amended to Harold Varty
Salisbury as the FreeBMD entry implies. Am I right?
Somewhat surprised, though, that a search of the GRO site doesn't
seem to throw up the Occasional Copy entry.

From https://www.gov.uk/correct-birth-registration (for current entries)
What the correction looks like
If your application is approved, a correction is made in the register in
the office for the area where your child was born.
The original information will always be shown in the register. After the
correction has been authorised, a note will be added to the margin of
the register. This will explain what the correct information is and when
the correction was made.
All full birth certificates that are issued after the correction will
include the note in the margin.

The GRO index entry has
SALISBURY, HAROLD - GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD
Volume 08A Page 488 Occasional Copy: A
so from the above there will not be a separate entry for Harold Varty,
just the original with the correction

It is possible the change could have added Varty as father on the
corrected birth certificate and the note with his surname as Varty?

The GRO index itself isn't the definitive record and in general Occasional
Copy: B, C... entries exist in other cases where further changes to an
entry are made so adding additional primary entries could make the index
very complicated.

FreeBMD will have their own rules on transcribing margin notes.

I wonder how the GRO would find an entry if they were only given the
details from an Occasional entry? Perhaps they have a separate
unpublished Occasional Entry index?

[Tickettyboo]

Post by Jenny M Benson
Knowing that Annie married Joseph Varty in September Q 1881, I am
assuming that Harold's birth entry was amended to show his surname as
Varty, not that his full name was amended to Harold Varty Salisbury as
the FreeBMD entry implies. Am I right?

The only way to know for sure is to buy the .pdf of the register entry
and see what the margin entry says

I've checked with various certs/ pdfs I have from around that time and
NO child was registered 'with' a surname on a birth cert .

From a birth cert dated 1885
There were 10 columns

1 When and where born
2 Name (if any) - (this was just a first name if yet decided upon for
the child)
3 Sex
4 name and surname of father
5 name, surname and maiden name of mother
6 Occupation of father
7 Signature, description and residence of informant
8 when registered
9 signature of registrar
10 Name entered after registration