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wreck of Athelbasca 1838
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cecilia
2019-05-12 19:07:00 UTC
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Does anyone know of the wreck on 1838 of a ship called Athelbasca?

What strip of coast did the Wirral registration district cover?

Reason for asking:

My great-uncle's 1959 typed account of his mother's family includes a
Matthew Gatenby who drowned in the wreck of the Athelbasca in 1838 and
that. "old family documents say" that his brother-in-law "Stephen
Nesfield was a victim on the same occasion."

I have not found a reference to a wreck of Athelbasca in 1838, or any
ships with that name. I have forund references to ships called
Athabasca, but no wrecks of such ships in 1838.

FreeBMD shows a death af a Stephen Nesfield registered in the Wirral
registration district in the 3rd quarter 1838, but no similar entry
for a Matthew Gatenby I would like more confirmation before ordering a
copy of the certificate, The GRO site says that the Stephen Nesfield
that died in 1838 was 45 at death.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-05-12 19:53:21 UTC
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Post by cecilia
Does anyone know of the wreck on 1838 of a ship called Athelbasca?
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Unfortunately, http://www.maritimearchives.co.uk/lloyds-list.html only
seems to go up to 1826. It says "A series of indexes, covering ship
movements and casualties 1838 to October 1927, are on microfilm at the
National Maritime Museum, the Guildhall Library, Merseyside Maritime
Museum and the National Library of Scotland." (Some of those are links.)
So you might be lucky.
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cecilia
2019-05-12 23:15:15 UTC
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On Sun, 12 May 2019 20:53:21 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by cecilia
Does anyone know of the wreck on 1838 of a ship called Athelbasca?
[]
Unfortunately, http://www.maritimearchives.co.uk/lloyds-list.html only
seems to go up to 1826. It says "A series of indexes, covering ship
movements and casualties 1838 to October 1927, are on microfilm at the
National Maritime Museum, the Guildhall Library, Merseyside Maritime
Museum and the National Library of Scotland." (Some of those are links.)
So you might be lucky.
Even though the most local-to-me-though-not-close links are
out-of-date, the places are still there. There are other wrecks
mentioned by my great-uncle for later study, so a new starting point
is welcome. Thank you.
MB
2019-05-28 20:40:20 UTC
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I don't know if anyone has pointed it out but the name of vessel seems
to have been Athabasca
cecilia
2019-05-29 06:46:09 UTC
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Post by MB
I don't know if anyone has pointed it out but the name of vessel seems
to have been Athabasca
Thank you. I became supicious in my first Google search, and my
suspicions were confirmed by the newspaper account giving the
searched-for date and naming the Captain with the searched for name.
john
2019-05-12 21:21:47 UTC
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Post by cecilia
Does anyone know of the wreck on 1838 of a ship called Athelbasca?
What strip of coast did the Wirral registration district cover?
My great-uncle's 1959 typed account of his mother's family includes a
Matthew Gatenby who drowned in the wreck of the Athelbasca in 1838 and
that. "old family documents say" that his brother-in-law "Stephen
Nesfield was a victim on the same occasion."
I have not found a reference to a wreck of Athelbasca in 1838, or any
ships with that name. I have forund references to ships called
Athabasca, but no wrecks of such ships in 1838.
FreeBMD shows a death af a Stephen Nesfield registered in the Wirral
registration district in the 3rd quarter 1838, but no similar entry
for a Matthew Gatenby I would like more confirmation before ordering a
copy of the certificate, The GRO site says that the Stephen Nesfield
that died in 1838 was 45 at death.
There is a long report of the loss of the Athabasca in Shipping and
Mercantile Gazette - Monday 30 April 1838, copied from Liverpool Journal
28 April, which you can read at https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
There are also other reports from local newspapers.
cecilia
2019-05-12 23:09:19 UTC
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On Sun, 12 May 2019 23:21:47 +0200, john
Post by john
Post by cecilia
Does anyone know of the wreck on 1838 of a ship called Athelbasca?
[...]
There is a long report of the loss of the Athabasca in Shipping and
Mercantile Gazette - Monday 30 April 1838, copied from Liverpool Journal
28 April, which you can read at https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
There are also other reports from local newspapers.
Thank you - that'll do what I want. I'll have a look when next at my
local access point for the British Newspaper Archives
john
2019-05-13 07:51:12 UTC
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Post by cecilia
On Sun, 12 May 2019 23:21:47 +0200, john
Post by john
Post by cecilia
Does anyone know of the wreck on 1838 of a ship called Athelbasca?
[...]
There is a long report of the loss of the Athabasca in Shipping and
Mercantile Gazette - Monday 30 April 1838, copied from Liverpool Journal
28 April, which you can read at https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
There are also other reports from local newspapers.
Thank you - that'll do what I want. I'll have a look when next at my
local access point for the British Newspaper Archives
The British Newspaper Archive give you the ability to view three pages
without charge when you register
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/account/register
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