Family McMurtrie/McMurtry

[m***@duncanjames.com]

Throughout the American history of the family, the name appears as
McMurtry, McMurtrey, McMurtrie and McMurtree. According to our family
tradition, five brothers came to America about/before 1720 and founded
the McMurtry family on this side of the Atlantic. We now know that
there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters
(one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert
Houey. A probable cousin, Alexander, joined them later. My family is
descended from Joseph. One of the brothers (not our Joseph) was
married at the time of their arrival in America. Joseph died 2 Jun
1761, Oxford Township, New Jersey. Also, it has been passed down that
one of the three McMurtrie/McMurtry brothers, not our Joseph, returned
to Scotland to reclaim the family estate, lands and castle but found
that it had been seized by the Crown. To this day, the reason remains
unknown.
1. Joseph MCMURTRY b. 1685, Dalmellington, Ayrshire, Scotland. Some
researchers claim that Joseph was born in Northern Ireland. I have
his will. In the original Gaelic, it was spelled MacMuirceartach. The
McMurtry's are not a clan but a sept of the clan Stewart of Bute.
2. Thomas MCMURTRY was born about 1700. He died in 1788 in Bernards
Township, Somerset County, New Jersey.
3. Robert MCMURTRIE was born about 1710. He died before 6 Sep 1777 in
Sussex County, New Jersey.
4. (Female/sister #1) was married to James HANNA.
5. Hannah MCMURTRY was married to Robert HOUEY.
Is this family familiar to anyone? /Jim Falkner, son of Marguerite
McMurtry.

[m***@duncanjames.com]

Throughout the American history of the family, the name appears as
McMurtry, McMurtrey, McMurtrie and McMurtree. According to our family
tradition, five brothers came to America about/before 1720 and founded
the McMurtry family on this side of the Atlantic. We now know that
there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters
(one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert
Houey. A probable cousin, Alexander, joined them later. My family is
descended from Joseph. One of the brothers (not our Joseph) was
married at the time of their arrival in America. Joseph died 2 Jun
1761, Oxford Township, New Jersey. Also, it has been passed down that
one of the three McMurtrie/McMurtry brothers, not our Joseph, returned
to Scotland to reclaim the family estate, lands and castle but found
that it had been seized by the Crown. To this day, the reason remains
unknown.
1. Joseph MCMURTRY b. 1685, Dalmellington, Ayrshire, Scotland. Some
researchers claim that Joseph was born in Northern Ireland. I have
his will. In the original Gaelic, it was spelled MacMuirceartach. The
McMurtry's are not a clan but a sept of the clan Stewart of Bute.
2. Thomas MCMURTRY was born about 1700. He died in 1788 in Bernards
Township, Somerset County, New Jersey.
3. Robert MCMURTRIE was born about 1710. He died before 6 Sep 1777 in
Sussex County, New Jersey.
4. (Female/sister #1) was married to James HANNA.
5. Hannah MCMURTRY was married to Robert HOUEY.
Is this family familiar to anyone? /Jim Falkner, son of Marguerite
McMurtry.

I am a son of Ralph Bertram McMurtry. My lineage tracks back to the same location Joseph who married Ann Boone. Please see the McMurtry-Marshall-Knowles-Skelton tree on Ancestry.com

[m***@duncanjames.com]

Throughout the American history of the family, the name appears as
McMurtry, McMurtrey, McMurtrie and McMurtree. According to our family
tradition, five brothers came to America about/before 1720 and founded
the McMurtry family on this side of the Atlantic. We now know that
there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters
(one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert
Houey. A probable cousin, Alexander, joined them later. My family is
descended from Joseph. One of the brothers (not our Joseph) was
married at the time of their arrival in America. Joseph died 2 Jun
1761, Oxford Township, New Jersey. Also, it has been passed down that
one of the three McMurtrie/McMurtry brothers, not our Joseph, returned
to Scotland to reclaim the family estate, lands and castle but found
that it had been seized by the Crown. To this day, the reason remains
unknown.
1. Joseph MCMURTRY b. 1685, Dalmellington, Ayrshire, Scotland. Some
researchers claim that Joseph was born in Northern Ireland. I have
his will. In the original Gaelic, it was spelled MacMuirceartach. The
McMurtry's are not a clan but a sept of the clan Stewart of Bute.
2. Thomas MCMURTRY was born about 1700. He died in 1788 in Bernards
Township, Somerset County, New Jersey.
3. Robert MCMURTRIE was born about 1710. He died before 6 Sep 1777 in
Sussex County, New Jersey.
4. (Female/sister #1) was married to James HANNA.
5. Hannah MCMURTRY was married to Robert HOUEY.
Is this family familiar to anyone? /Jim Falkner, son of Marguerite
McMurtry.

Did you get my message. Do you have a translation of the will? I am the son of Ralph Bertram McMurtry in spite of the fact my last name is James. My lineage goes back to Joseph also. Please see my tree in Ancestry.com (Marshall-McMurtry-Knowles-Skelton)

[Jon Green]

Post by m***@duncanjames.com

[...]

Did you get my message.

Given that the message you were replying to was posted nearly two
decades ago, and given that family historians are often retired folks,
it's possible that - even if he never changed email address - Mr.
Falkner may not be in any position to reply.

Jon

[m***@duncanjames.com]

Throughout the American history of the family, the name appears as
McMurtry, McMurtrey, McMurtrie and McMurtree. According to our family
tradition, five brothers came to America about/before 1720 and founded
the McMurtry family on this side of the Atlantic. We now know that
there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters
(one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert
Houey. A probable cousin, Alexander, joined them later. My family is
descended from Joseph. One of the brothers (not our Joseph) was
married at the time of their arrival in America. Joseph died 2 Jun
1761, Oxford Township, New Jersey. Also, it has been passed down that
one of the three McMurtrie/McMurtry brothers, not our Joseph, returned
to Scotland to reclaim the family estate, lands and castle but found
that it had been seized by the Crown. To this day, the reason remains
unknown.
1. Joseph MCMURTRY b. 1685, Dalmellington, Ayrshire, Scotland. Some
researchers claim that Joseph was born in Northern Ireland. I have
his will. In the original Gaelic, it was spelled MacMuirceartach. The
McMurtry's are not a clan but a sept of the clan Stewart of Bute.
2. Thomas MCMURTRY was born about 1700. He died in 1788 in Bernards
Township, Somerset County, New Jersey.
3. Robert MCMURTRIE was born about 1710. He died before 6 Sep 1777 in
Sussex County, New Jersey.
4. (Female/sister #1) was married to James HANNA.
5. Hannah MCMURTRY was married to Robert HOUEY.
Is this family familiar to anyone? /Jim Falkner, son of Marguerite
McMurtry.

Thanks for the reply. I understand your comment about Jon Falkner since it is a reality all of us must face but if you cca't ask the pretty lady to dance she can't say yes. In other words, if I don't ask, I don't have the chance of finding the will.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

Post by m***@duncanjames.com

Throughout the American history of the family, the name appears as
McMurtry, McMurtrey, McMurtrie and McMurtree. According to our family
tradition, five brothers came to America about/before 1720 and founded
the McMurtry family on this side of the Atlantic. We now know that
there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters
(one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert
Houey. A probable cousin, Alexander, joined them later. My family is
descended from Joseph. One of the brothers (not our Joseph) was
married at the time of their arrival in America. Joseph died 2 Jun
1761, Oxford Township, New Jersey. Also, it has been passed down that
one of the three McMurtrie/McMurtry brothers, not our Joseph, returned
to Scotland to reclaim the family estate, lands and castle but found
that it had been seized by the Crown. To this day, the reason remains
unknown.
1. Joseph MCMURTRY b. 1685, Dalmellington, Ayrshire, Scotland. Some
researchers claim that Joseph was born in Northern Ireland. I have
his will. In the original Gaelic, it was spelled MacMuirceartach. The
McMurtry's are not a clan but a sept of the clan Stewart of Bute.
2. Thomas MCMURTRY was born about 1700. He died in 1788 in Bernards
Township, Somerset County, New Jersey.
3. Robert MCMURTRIE was born about 1710. He died before 6 Sep 1777 in
Sussex County, New Jersey.
4. (Female/sister #1) was married to James HANNA.
5. Hannah MCMURTRY was married to Robert HOUEY.
Is this family familiar to anyone? /Jim Falkner, son of Marguerite
McMurtry.

Thanks for the reply. I understand your comment about Jon Falkner
since it is a reality all of us must face but if you cca't ask the
pretty lady to dance she can't say yes. In other words, if I don't
ask, I don't have the chance of finding the will.

One of my grandmothers was Margaret Elizabeth Fleming McMurtry before
her marriage. There was a great deal of information about the McMurtry
family at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcmurtriecfr/mcfr0801.htm

but it appears to be off-line at present. However, if the site is to be
believed it will come back. All of the McMurtrys that interest me came
from Aghadowey, County Derry. The earliest that I know of was Hugh
McMurtry (1797-1887).

[b***@gmail.com]

Throughout the American history of the family, the name appears as
McMurtry, McMurtrey, McMurtrie and McMurtree. According to our family
tradition, five brothers came to America about/before 1720 and founded
the McMurtry family on this side of the Atlantic. We now know that
there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters
(one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert
Houey. A probable cousin, Alexander, joined them later. My family is
descended from Joseph. One of the brothers (not our Joseph) was
married at the time of their arrival in America. Joseph died 2 Jun
1761, Oxford Township, New Jersey. Also, it has been passed down that
one of the three McMurtrie/McMurtry brothers, not our Joseph, returned
to Scotland to reclaim the family estate, lands and castle but found
that it had been seized by the Crown. To this day, the reason remains
unknown.
1. Joseph MCMURTRY b. 1685, Dalmellington, Ayrshire, Scotland. Some
researchers claim that Joseph was born in Northern Ireland. I have
his will. In the original Gaelic, it was spelled MacMuirceartach. The
McMurtry's are not a clan but a sept of the clan Stewart of Bute.
2. Thomas MCMURTRY was born about 1700. He died in 1788 in Bernards
Township, Somerset County, New Jersey.
3. Robert MCMURTRIE was born about 1710. He died before 6 Sep 1777 in
Sussex County, New Jersey.
4. (Female/sister #1) was married to James HANNA.
5. Hannah MCMURTRY was married to Robert HOUEY.
Is this family familiar to anyone? /Jim Falkner, son of Marguerite
McMurtry.

This family is familiar to me because it is the family WE ARE NOT related to, even though an earlier genealogy (done I think in the late 1800's) which mistakenly connected this family to a Joseph McMurtrie born 1772 in the USA who himself cannot be traced to Scotland. The wording you give sounds like the wording that comes from the book that gave the mistaken geneaology - a book called "one Man's family" written by (I think) Ira Brown. The rest of that book traces the 1772 USA McMurtrie to the present.

[m***@duncanjames.com]

Post by b***@gmail.com

Throughout the American history of the family, the name appears as
McMurtry, McMurtrey, McMurtrie and McMurtree. According to our family
tradition, five brothers came to America about/before 1720 and founded
the McMurtry family on this side of the Atlantic. We now know that
there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters
(one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert
Houey. A probable cousin, Alexander, joined them later. My family is
descended from Joseph. One of the brothers (not our Joseph) was
married at the time of their arrival in America. Joseph died 2 Jun
1761, Oxford Township, New Jersey. Also, it has been passed down that
one of the three McMurtrie/McMurtry brothers, not our Joseph, returned
to Scotland to reclaim the family estate, lands and castle but found
that it had been seized by the Crown. To this day, the reason remains
unknown.
1. Joseph MCMURTRY b. 1685, Dalmellington, Ayrshire, Scotland. Some
researchers claim that Joseph was born in Northern Ireland. I have
his will. In the original Gaelic, it was spelled MacMuirceartach. The
McMurtry's are not a clan but a sept of the clan Stewart of Bute.
2. Thomas MCMURTRY was born about 1700. He died in 1788 in Bernards
Township, Somerset County, New Jersey.
3. Robert MCMURTRIE was born about 1710. He died before 6 Sep 1777 in
Sussex County, New Jersey.
4. (Female/sister #1) was married to James HANNA.
5. Hannah MCMURTRY was married to Robert HOUEY.
Is this family familiar to anyone? /Jim Falkner, son of Marguerite
McMurtry.

This family is familiar to me because it is the family WE ARE NOT related to, even though an earlier genealogy (done I think in the late 1800's) which mistakenly connected this family to a Joseph McMurtrie born 1772 in the USA who himself cannot be traced to Scotland. The wording you give sounds like the wording that comes from the book that gave the mistaken geneaology - a book called "one Man's family" written by (I think) Ira Brown. The rest of that book traces the 1772 USA McMurtrie to the present.

I am able to trace back from my great-great grandfather Benjamin Franklin McMurtry (b: 1930, Alabama) who died at the age of 28 years on 7 Jan 1859 in Mendocino County, California about 20 miles from where I currently live. He was the son of Price McMurtry (b: 1795, Kentucky) the son of William McMurtry (b: 1752, Virginia)and grandson of James McMurtry (b: 1727, New Jersey). It was James father Joseph(b: 1685, Dalmellington, Ayshire Co, Scotland) who immigrated to the United States in 1712. James was the son of Thomas McMurtrie (b: 12 Mar 1662, Straiton, Ayrshire, Scotland) and Jean Mcwalter. What I was looking at is the common thread when James Falkner referenced the 3 brothers "Joseph, Thomas and Robert" since I descend from the brother Joseph who died on 17 May 1762, the same person referenced by James Falkner. I realize that according to my DNA I have a significant % of Irish and Scottish genes but one IO get to Thomas McMurtrie I have difficulty tracing. I thought that there referenced will might be helpful tracking heirs if there was a translation.

[Chris Dickinson]

On Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:35:23 UTC+1, ***@duncanjames.com wrote:

<snip>

We now know that
there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters
(one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert
Houey.

<snip>

Please be very aware that the 'three brother' theme was a common one in c1900 genealogies.

It is quite possible that you have an old three brothers, but the likelihood is that you don't unless the tree has been checked very thoroughly in recent years.

Chris

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by Chris Dickinson
<snip>

We now know that
there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters
(one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert
Houey.

<snip>
Please be very aware that the 'three brother' theme was a common one in c1900 genealogies.

What was this "theme"?

Post by Chris Dickinson
It is quite possible that you have an old three brothers, but the
likelihood is that you don't unless the tree has been checked very
thoroughly in recent years.
Chris

[Chris Dickinson]

On Sunday, 13 May 2018 21:01:25 UTC+1, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

<snip>

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
What was this "theme"?

<snip>

Part of the standard narrative of many US genealogical books written around 1900. For some reason, people liked the idea of their first migrants arriving as three 'brothers' together.

There's an equivalent in Cumbrian genealogy (at least, I've come across three families with the same story), which I suspect originated at about the same time. A medieval local lord with his new bride go on a hunting trip, get separated from the rest of the party, and then are charged by a boar. The supposed forester ancestor leaps to their defence, kills the boar, and gets rewarded with a farm.

Chris

Chris

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by Chris Dickinson
<snip>

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
What was this "theme"?

<snip>
Part of the standard narrative of many US genealogical books written
around 1900. For some reason, people liked the idea of their first
migrants arriving as three 'brothers' together.

Thanks for the explanation. How odd!

Post by Chris Dickinson
There's an equivalent in Cumbrian genealogy (at least, I've come across
three families with the same story), which I suspect originated at
about the same time. A medieval local lord with his new bride go on a
hunting trip, get separated from the rest of the party, and then are
charged by a boar. The supposed forester ancestor leaps to their
defence, kills the boar, and gets rewarded with a farm.

I've not come across that one (though don't have many ancestors in
Cumbria/Cumberland).

Post by Chris Dickinson
Chris
Chris

John

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

<snip>> What was this "theme"?
<snip>
Part of the standard narrative of many US genealogical books written
around 1900. For some reason, people liked the idea of their first
migrants arriving as three 'brothers' together.
There's an equivalent in Cumbrian genealogy (at least, I've come across
three families with the same story), which I suspect originated at
about the same time. A medieval local lord with his new bride go on a
hunting trip, get separated from the rest of the party, and then are
charged by a boar. The supposed forester ancestor leaps to their
defence, kills the boar, and gets rewarded with a farm.

For what it's worth Augusto Pinochet is said to be descended from one
of three brothers who emigrated together from France.

[Ian Goddard]

Post by Chris Dickinson
<snip>

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
What was this "theme"?

<snip>
Part of the standard narrative of many US genealogical books written around 1900. For some reason, people liked the idea of their first migrants arriving as three 'brothers' together.

Interesting. The Collier surname seems to have arrived in the Holmfirth
area with four individuals three of whom have names corresponding to
three brothers baptised across the Pennines. The fourth? His name
corresponds with the father. Actually father and one of the sons share
the same name which isn't unusual.

Ian

[Chris Dickinson]

Post by Ian Goddard

Post by Chris Dickinson
<snip>

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
What was this "theme"?

<snip>
Part of the standard narrative of many US genealogical books written around 1900. For some reason, people liked the idea of their first migrants arriving as three 'brothers' together.

Interesting. The Collier surname seems to have arrived in the Holmfirth
area with four individuals three of whom have names corresponding to
three brothers baptised across the Pennines. The fourth? His name
corresponds with the father. Actually father and one of the sons share
the same name which isn't unusual.
Ian

There must be plenty of 'three brothers' stories that are true. Perhaps a three brother relationship works particularly well in family dynamics? I have two brothers, but there is a 10-year range - I could see that were the range to be more like 6 years, especially in a hamlet context, the bond could be significant.

[Ian Goddard]

Post by Chris Dickinson
There must be plenty of 'three brothers' stories that are true. Perhaps a three brother relationship works particularly well in family dynamics? I have two brothers, but there is a 10-year range - I could see that were the range to be more like 6 years, especially in a hamlet context, the bond could be significant.

It might be a statistical thing. Perhaps in the relevant time period
the number of surviving male children peaks around 3. So if the
/father/ moves and takes the children with him then you get a lot of 3
brother settlement stories with the father discountered.

To counter this statistic /two/ of my ggfather's brothers emigrated to
Sydney although not on the same boat - they arrived about a month apart.
Another brother also emigrated but to Chicago some years later. A
fourth one simply disappears from the census after 1851; I've no idea
what happened to him.

Ian

[Chris Dickinson]

Post by Ian Goddard

Post by Chris Dickinson
There must be plenty of 'three brothers' stories that are true. Perhaps a three brother relationship works particularly well in family dynamics? I have two brothers, but there is a 10-year range - I could see that were the range to be more like 6 years, especially in a hamlet context, the bond could be significant.

It might be a statistical thing. Perhaps in the relevant time period
the number of surviving male children peaks around 3. So if the
/father/ moves and takes the children with him then you get a lot of 3
brother settlement stories with the father discountered.
To counter this statistic /two/ of my ggfather's brothers emigrated to
Sydney although not on the same boat - they arrived about a month apart.
Another brother also emigrated but to Chicago some years later. A
fourth one simply disappears from the census after 1851; I've no idea
what happened to him.
Ian

Might make a good study for a thesis.

Going back to the cultural aspect, the Brothes Grimm published a story 'The Three Brothers' (where thay all did very well), so that might have become part of popular consciousness.

Chris

[m***@duncanjames.com]

I am able to pretty accurately trace back to Joseph McMurtrie (b. 1685) who was one of three brothers who immigrated to the US. My difficulty is traced back past him. He had two bothers, Thomas and Robert, who also immigrated to the US. Any help would be appreciated.

[m***@duncanjames.com]

Throughout the American history of the family, the name appears as
McMurtry, McMurtrey, McMurtrie and McMurtree. According to our family
tradition, five brothers came to America about/before 1720 and founded
the McMurtry family on this side of the Atlantic. We now know that
there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters
(one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert
Houey. A probable cousin, Alexander, joined them later. My family is
descended from Joseph. One of the brothers (not our Joseph) was
married at the time of their arrival in America. Joseph died 2 Jun
1761, Oxford Township, New Jersey. Also, it has been passed down that
one of the three McMurtrie/McMurtry brothers, not our Joseph, returned
to Scotland to reclaim the family estate, lands and castle but found
that it had been seized by the Crown. To this day, the reason remains
unknown.
1. Joseph MCMURTRY b. 1685, Dalmellington, Ayrshire, Scotland. Some
researchers claim that Joseph was born in Northern Ireland. I have
his will. In the original Gaelic, it was spelled MacMuirceartach. The
McMurtry's are not a clan but a sept of the clan Stewart of Bute.
2. Thomas MCMURTRY was born about 1700. He died in 1788 in Bernards
Township, Somerset County, New Jersey.
3. Robert MCMURTRIE was born about 1710. He died before 6 Sep 1777 in
Sussex County, New Jersey.
4. (Female/sister #1) was married to James HANNA.
5. Hannah MCMURTRY was married to Robert HOUEY.
Is this family familiar to anyone? /Jim Falkner, son of Marguerite
McMurtry.

[m***@duncanjames.com]

Throughout the American history of the family, the name appears as
McMurtry, McMurtrey, McMurtrie and McMurtree. According to our family
tradition, five brothers came to America about/before 1720 and founded
the McMurtry family on this side of the Atlantic. We now know that
there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters
(one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert
Houey. A probable cousin, Alexander, joined them later. My family is
descended from Joseph. One of the brothers (not our Joseph) was
married at the time of their arrival in America. Joseph died 2 Jun
1761, Oxford Township, New Jersey. Also, it has been passed down that
one of the three McMurtrie/McMurtry brothers, not our Joseph, returned
to Scotland to reclaim the family estate, lands and castle but found
that it had been seized by the Crown. To this day, the reason remains
unknown.
1. Joseph MCMURTRY b. 1685, Dalmellington, Ayrshire, Scotland. Some
researchers claim that Joseph was born in Northern Ireland. I have
his will. In the original Gaelic, it was spelled MacMuirceartach. The
McMurtry's are not a clan but a sept of the clan Stewart of Bute.
2. Thomas MCMURTRY was born about 1700. He died in 1788 in Bernards
Township, Somerset County, New Jersey.
3. Robert MCMURTRIE was born about 1710. He died before 6 Sep 1777 in
Sussex County, New Jersey.
4. (Female/sister #1) was married to James HANNA.
5. Hannah MCMURTRY was married to Robert HOUEY.
Is this family familiar to anyone? /Jim Falkner, son of Marguerite
McMurtry.

According to what I have been able to determine is I descend from the brother Joseph too except I have a different date of death (d. 17 May 1772} in Oxford Township, Sussex County, New Jersey. As we track my lineage, He had a son James {b 1727) in Warren, NJ. James fathered William (b. 1752) in Bedford County, Virginia, who in turn fathered Price (b. Abt 1795) Green County, Kentucky. Price fathered Benjamin Franklin McMurtry, my great, great grandfather who died only 20 miles from where I currently live in very rural Northern, California. This detail and a great deal more can be found in my tree in Ancestry.com called "Marshall-McMurtry-Knowles-Skelton". Although I show up n the tree as Duncan Marshall James, my true last name is McMurtry. I was never adopted nor has m name been legally changed. It was a name I assumed when I started school. I am the son of Ralph Bertram McMurtry (b. 5 Jun 1910; d. 23 Apr 1986) who was born and died in San Francisco, CA. If you have any information that you think would be helpful I would really appreciate it. Thanks

[d***@gmail.com]

I am a MacMurtrie, I don't have much history on my family but I have always been curious as to whether I have long lost relatives or not. I'd love to know more.

[Graeme Wall]

Post by d***@gmail.com
I am a MacMurtrie, I don't have much history on my family but I have always been curious as to whether I have long lost relatives or not. I'd love to know more.

You'd better d some homework then.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

Post by d***@gmail.com
I am a MacMurtrie, I don't have much history on my family but I have
always been curious as to whether I have long lost relatives or not.
I'd love to know more.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcmurtriecfr/mcfr0801.htm
Your Gateway to McM Family History

doesn't seem to be freely available any more, but you can probably find
it with the Wayback machine.