Denbighshire parishes Llangollen - Pontfadog

[Ruth Wilson]

Can anyone with a bit of Denbighshire knowledge help me? I have a
marriage record in 1830. I have a scan of that from the Llangollen PR
online (Llangollen given as the parish at the head of the page) but
there is an identical record from FMP Denbighshire Marriages
transcriptions and on Family Search that give the place as Pontfadog.
I have found that Pontfadog became a separate parish in 1848, and I am
assuming that it could have been a chapelry earlier, with the marriage
taking place in Pontfadog and being entered in Llangollen PRs. However,
I can't find any evidence for this.
One day, I will get round to Clwyd CRO and chasing this line, but until
then, any help gratefully received.
Ruth

[Tickettyboo]

Post by Ruth Wilson
Can anyone with a bit of Denbighshire knowledge help me? I have a
marriage record in 1830. I have a scan of that from the Llangollen PR
online (Llangollen given as the parish at the head of the page) but
there is an identical record from FMP Denbighshire Marriages
transcriptions and on Family Search that give the place as Pontfadog.
I have found that Pontfadog became a separate parish in 1848, and I am
assuming that it could have been a chapelry earlier, with the marriage
taking place in Pontfadog and being entered in Llangollen PRs. However,
I can't find any evidence for this.
One day, I will get round to Clwyd CRO and chasing this line, but until
then, any help gratefully received.
Ruth

I have no local knowledge of Denbighshire, and have no idea if there
was a chapelry at Pontfadog, but this rang a bell. I remembered reading
elsewhere that there are a few discrepancies in this FMP database
(possibly originally an error made by Family Search and FMP use their
transcriptions) and suspect that the marriages took place at the parish
church of Llangollen.

I had a look at the Denbighshire Marriages and Banns records on FMP.
Specifying a year of 1830 (exact) and a place as Pontfadog and leaving
all other fields blank, I get 44 results all saying in the transcript
that they took place at Pontfadog - I didn't check them all but the
images for the dozen or so I looked at all said the Parish of
Llangollen on the register images.

Interestingly, if I repeat the search but specify the place as
Llangollen, I am told there are NO results for that search. According
to FMP not one single couple married at the Parish Church of Llangollen
in 1830.

I'd doubt that 44 couples would have married at a chapelry and none at
all at the Parish Church in an entire year.

I'd be interested to know the film number for the record you found on
Family Search to see what their source was for the transcription, but
an email to the archives which hold the originals would probably get
you a definite answer as to whether or not there was a chapelry at
Pontfadog prior to it becming a separate parish.

[MB]

Unfortunately the Clwyd and Denbighshire ROOTSWEB mailing lists are
inactive, pity because the Clwyd one could be useful. There is still a
ROOTSWEB Denbighshire Message Board, it is quiet but often there are
still people watching even quiet ones.

[Ruth Wilson]

Thanks, Ticketyboo, and MB. I hadn't thought of a database error
(particulary when there was nothing especially 'suspicious' about it)!
That does sound more likely and fits the facts as I have them.
Ruth