Mugshots for offenders: how prevalent were they, in England, at various dates?

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

My cousin would like to get hold of the mugshot from the crime committed
by her grandfather in Newcastle in 1941.

I am not sure mugshots were normally taken in England, especially during
wartime when everything was in short supply and there was no doubt about
the identity of the offender. However, this evening's WDTYTA implied
they _were_ being taken in London's docklands, even some decades
earlier, so I thought I'd ask.

From the "N''CL", 1941-July-2:

Canadian fired rifle in tram
A fine of 10s. was imposed at Newcastle to-day, on William
Kennedy (36), a Canadian soldier, for being drunk in possession of an
Army rifle, and one of 10s. for wantonly firing the rifle in a public
place.
It was alleged that in New Bridge Street, Kennedy fired a blank
cartridge while on a tramcar on which were six passengers.
"I was not drunk," he said in court. "It was only a dummy
cartridge."

[He was actually a native of Newcastle; he'd emigrated (Glasgow to
Quebec) in 1929, but returned as a member of the Royal Hamilton Light
Infantry during the war. He was killed in action in Dieppe in 1942.]

So: would this offence have generated a mugshot? And, if so, how would
my cousin (or I for her) go about looking for it, or any court papers,
military court proceedings, or similar?

[MB]

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
My cousin would like to get hold of the mugshot from the crime committed
by her grandfather in Newcastle in 1941.

Looking at his service file, he was not in custody long so I suspect the
civil police would not bother with a mugshot because they would have his
service ID card with picture and know the military would have one in
their files.

Quite sad looking through what few personal effects he left behind -
necklace, handkerchief, some photographs and a cap badge.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by MB

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
My cousin would like to get hold of the mugshot from the crime committed
by her grandfather in Newcastle in 1941.

Looking at his service file, he was not in custody long so I suspect
the civil police would not bother with a mugshot because they would
have his service ID card with picture and know the military would have
one in their files.
Quite sad looking through what few personal effects he left behind -
necklace, handkerchief, some photographs and a cap badge.

Indeed.

Passed on to cousin (who I think doesn't do newsgroups).

[I didn't know WW2 service files were accessible - is that via Ancestry?
I've seen plenty of WW1 ones.]

[MB]

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[I didn't know WW2 service files were accessible - is that via Ancestry?
I've seen plenty of WW1 ones.]

Yes the Canadian ones are on Ancestry, very detailed.

I looked because I previously looked at a RCAF WWII one on Archives
Canada but it just has a summary of his file though I think some army
ones are digitised there (free).

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by MB

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[I didn't know WW2 service files were accessible - is that via
Ancestry? I've seen plenty of WW1 ones.]

Yes the Canadian ones are on Ancestry, very detailed.
I looked because I previously looked at a RCAF WWII one on Archives
Canada but it just has a summary of his file though I think some army
ones are digitised there (free).

Ah, hadn't occurred to me to look under Canadian records! Should have
been obvious, as he was in the Canadian army.

[MB]

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Ah, hadn't occurred to me to look under Canadian records! Should have
been obvious, as he was in the Canadian army.

I think you will only find a single page summary at the moment but
Canadian national records are good and usually free.

Ancestry have the whole record.