Discussion:
Ordering Certificate of Marine Birth
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Jenny M Benson
2022-08-11 16:18:34 UTC
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I have the "Application for an Overseas Birth Certificate" page at the
GRO site open. I have given the date of birth as 1849, knowing only
that the child's age was given as 2 on the 1851 Census. (He died in
1851 but the stupid GRO site does not find the entry and does not allow
me to enter only the date and reference (which I know from FreeBMD) so
cannot confirm age there. The compulsory fields are Surname, Forename
and GRO Reference but the Index to Marine Deaths only has the date as
1837-1862 and the only reference is "page 154."

On the order form do I just put "154" or "page 154" as the reference or
do I need to specify which Index it is? The GRO's own Help is no help
at all!
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Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
Peter Johnson
2022-08-12 15:43:31 UTC
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 17:18:34 +0100, Jenny M Benson
Post by Jenny M Benson
I have the "Application for an Overseas Birth Certificate" page at the
GRO site open. I have given the date of birth as 1849, knowing only
that the child's age was given as 2 on the 1851 Census. (He died in
1851 but the stupid GRO site does not find the entry and does not allow
me to enter only the date and reference (which I know from FreeBMD) so
cannot confirm age there. The compulsory fields are Surname, Forename
and GRO Reference but the Index to Marine Deaths only has the date as
1837-1862 and the only reference is "page 154."
I've just ordered, in the last month, two certificates from GRO for
entries that aren't in their index but with details obtained from
other sites.
I just went through the links that appear after clicking on 'Place an
order', you get to a section headed 'How can the event be identified?'
The first item is 'I know the GRO Index Reference'. Fill in the
details, including the Volume number and Page number that you got from
FreeBMD.
I don't know if its relevant that one of mine, a recent death, was
ordered on 24 July and only posted yesterday. Two others, ordered at
the same time, were posted on 28 July.
Jenny M Benson
2022-08-12 19:18:47 UTC
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Post by Peter Johnson
I've just ordered, in the last month, two certificates from GRO for
entries that aren't in their index but with details obtained from
other sites.
I just went through the links that appear after clicking on 'Place an
order', you get to a section headed 'How can the event be identified?'
The first item is 'I know the GRO Index Reference'. Fill in the
details, including the Volume number and Page number that you got from
FreeBMD.
I don't know if its relevant that one of mine, a recent death, was
ordered on 24 July and only posted yesterday. Two others, ordered at
the same time, were posted on 28 July.
I am aware that I could order the DC even though I can't find the
details on their site, but it is not the DC that I want, it is the Birth
Cert and as it was a Marine Birth there is no volume/page or date more
precise than a 25-year range.
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Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
Peter Johnson
2022-08-14 16:44:58 UTC
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 20:18:47 +0100, Jenny M Benson
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Peter Johnson
I've just ordered, in the last month, two certificates from GRO for
entries that aren't in their index but with details obtained from
other sites.
I just went through the links that appear after clicking on 'Place an
order', you get to a section headed 'How can the event be identified?'
The first item is 'I know the GRO Index Reference'. Fill in the
details, including the Volume number and Page number that you got from
FreeBMD.
I don't know if its relevant that one of mine, a recent death, was
ordered on 24 July and only posted yesterday. Two others, ordered at
the same time, were posted on 28 July.
I am aware that I could order the DC even though I can't find the
details on their site, but it is not the DC that I want, it is the Birth
Cert and as it was a Marine Birth there is no volume/page or date more
precise than a 25-year range.
Births or deaths, the same applies, except, obviously, in the case of
marine births. You haven't tried actually asking the GRO if they can
give you want you want? I appreciate that communicating with them is a
bit of an opaque process.
If there's a register office close to where you live you could try
visiting. I don't supposed they'd have the information you want but at
least you'd get the chance to talk to a real person who might be able
to advise you.

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